2004/05/27 Additional information
requested at end of description.
2004/05/28 More good information scroll down to
read (added to the bottom).
Still on the MSO. (Manufacturers Statement of
Origin). Never Registered - as New.
RARE - VERY RARE - GROUP "B" CAR ONLY 200
EVER MADE BY FORD. This car has never been
raced and is still waiting to be run in.
THIS CAR IS COMPLETELY ORIGINAL in every way,
except the shift knobs (stolen in transit).
The RS200 is the real deal - Aluminum honeycomb
and steel chassis tub, Mechanical design was
shared between Ford Motorsport engineers, and
F1 specialist Tony Southgate. Body by
GHIA. This is a full time four wheel drive
car it has three limited slip differentials
(front, center and rear). Torque is split 37
front and 63 rear. The RS200 has perfect
balance - 25% of its weight on each wheel.
This is one of 16 'Special' road cars that
came with the factory options as above.
Note: The actual Serial Number is
SFACXXBJ2CGL00110. The engine sounds similar
to a sport bike, very nice (due to 180
degree crank and Cosworth 4 valve head).
This is the real deal. Ford made the RS200
to Win at World Rallying and win they did.
"By the end of it's first season, the RS200 had
won four major rally championships -- the
British Open, Belgian, Dutch, and West Euro Cup --
and had recorded 21 international victories.
No other Ford competition car had ever started its
career so well". This is a direct
quote from the FORD RS200 sales
brochure.
TODAY there are approximately 140 -
RS200's remaining world wide. When Group ‘B’ was
cancelled, Ford limited its sales to only 142 of
the 200 cars they built! Forty-six cars were
disassembled to ensure spare parts for years to
come. Six cars destroyed racing, and six
prototypes compacted by Ford.
I just received the following E-Mail . . .
Please read my reply following:
(Name and address withheld)
My apologies to all Ferrari lovers in advance,
I do not in any way want to take anything away
from your cars, they are fabulous machines and are
the high standard for many comparisons. It is with
this in mind that I mention them. If they were not
so famous, powerful, and beautiful, would they be
mentioned at all? So, please take any comparison
as a compliment, not otherwise.
Did you notice that the RS200 has an Italian
body? Styled by GHIA in Turin, Italy.
Dear Ebayer,
Sorry, you are mistaken. This is the REAL Group
'B' car and it does have a full cage, they
concealed it behind the trim. Look closely and you
can see the tubes running the length of the A
pillars (trim wrapped around) the tube shape is
unmistakable. Possibly my photos do not do it
justice. All the races and victories by the RS200
in Group "B" were with the 1.8 liter engine and
they had approximately 380 HP to about 400HP.
Today the 1.8 can be modified to 500+HP.
There never was a 600-HP factory car. The only
cars that had more were the IMSA GTO CAR and the
PIKES PEAK CAR, and both were modified. RS200's
had such power to spare it felt like they had
600hp on tap stock, and many still claim this. The
2.1 liter engine had 525+ HP out of the box, I
have heard of it being modified to near 800 HP
(unnecessary). Stone stock it could hit 175 MPH
from zero in about 1/2 the time it took a Ferrari
F40. Note 1/4 mile slip of 10.2 at Denver
(uncorrected) while babying the clutch (reported
in Car & Driver years ago). The Ferrari F40, I
believe took 25 seconds to hit 175 MPH, the RS200
2.1 liter about 15 seconds or less. I have seen
300+ KM/H in an RS200 - 2.1 and have some idea of
what I speak of. The cars (all RS200's) have a
quick change transfer box that allows the changing
of gear ratios in 7 steps (on back of the motor
before the trans.), so that top speed can be set
anywhere from 118 MPH to 230 MPH. The most popular
choices fall in the middle range depending on
engine choice and power level. Most opt for
acceleration, very brutal with a 2.1 and very nice
with the 1.8. Also note the 2.1 has a red line of
10,000 RPM. The 1.8 is kept under 8,500. Power is
such that shifts over 7,000 are not necessary.
This car (the subject of this auction) is geared
for approx. 150 mph and little throttle would be
required to maintain that pace. There is ample
reserve. This car is set up to be king of the
corners, any road, any highway, and top end can be
changed inexpensively for those who want more. In
the mountains and on tight roads, I would want no
other car. It would take days to go into all the
reasons this car is exceptional, for those in the
know, I believe it is the bargain of the year.
The 350 hp cars, RS200 (like this one) has
acceleration and cornering performance in excess
of a Ferrari 355, I have been unable to compare it
to the 360, a friend of mine, who has, says the
acceleration is on par with the 360 but the
cornering of the RS200 is superior! Keep in mind
that this car is 2602 lbs wet. With Lb./HP numbers
sub 8 (350 HP) or near 5 (525+ HP) it goes . .
.
The Guiness Book of World Records has the RS200
as the Worlds Fastest Accelerating Production Car
(for the last 10 years) with a 0 - 60 mph of 3.07s
(average of two runs), one each way. Sub 3s 0 - 60
have been recorded. These numbers are for the 2.1
engine which WILL drop right into THIS car. ALL
THE OTHER PARTS ARE THE SAME, EXCEPT THE CLUTCH
which is a triple plate up from the stock double
plate ceramic clutch (as in this car). MAKE NO
MISTAKE, THEY ONLY MADE THE REAL THING. ALL 200 OF
THE RS200's ARE REAL GROUP ‘B’ CARS with ALL the
right bits. The "Road car" was a Pretty, nicely
dressed, Racing Car. SAME CHASSIS, SAME
SUSPENSION, SAME BODY, SAME ENGINE, ETC. Only the
level of engine tune was different.
Although this is a Race car, it was designed
to be daily driven on the Road. All RS200's
have the same aluminum honeycomb chassis tub, dry
sump etc. and 6000 miles recommended between oil
changes. These cars have capability that almost 20
years later can only barely be touched and then
only if you spend a lot more money for a car that
may not hold its value. TODAY, THERE ARE LESS THAN
140 RS200'S EVERYWHERE, all cars counted.
Some are now in museums such as; the
famous - Schlumpf Automotive Museum in Mulhouse,
France, the Shikoku Historic Car Museum, Shikoku,
Japan, the Paolo Gratto Ford Museum, Farra
d’Isonzo, Italy, the National Motor Museum,
Beaulieu, Hampshire, England, and the Heritage
Motor Center, Graydon, England - home of "The
Largest Collection of Historic British Cars in the
World" and, Ford retained Chassis #200, the last
RS200 built for their collection, just to mention
a few.
This is the real deal. At some point, basically
now, there is little to nothing on the secondary
market for sale. These cars have, for the most
part, migrated to owners who will not sell them
for a very long time. Have a look at the number of
unique viewers of this car. The interest is there.
This morning I called England to check on any
RS200's sold over there and found details of
lesser cars (high mileage) that sold for more than
I am asking. If you want a great RS200, this is
it, if you want the 2.1 car, buy this one, drop in
the 2.1 motor and save a bundle! Good luck and
thank you for your enquiry.
2004/05/27 The Original RS200
Owners / Workshop Manual is included
with the car, all 276 pages of it. This
manual also doubles as the shop or mechanics
manual. It has complete wiring diagrams,
engine maintenance, overhaul, assembly, and
disassembly of all major components. Etc Etc
Etc... This is the one necessary resource
that will help you to keep your RS200 in top shape
and running for many years to come. It will
prove invaluable to your mechanic. It has
detailed steps on how to do almost anything that
can be done to build and maintain your RS200.
NOTE: I have a set of used Red Sparco
Racing seats with adjustable seat tracks from
a friends RS200 (his is currently in a museum with
the recaro seats). These seats are shown in
the Ford RS200 sales brochure. These
will be included with the car at
no extra cost, on a bid of $100,000 or more.
Many thanks for all the calls and
E-Mails, so many good questions! Best wishes
to all.
There are several RS200's in the USA and I know
of several RS200's registered and licensed for
road use in Japan plus other asian
countries. This car can be converted to
Right Hand Drive, the main items required are a
RHD steering rack and wiring harness. I have
a contact at Ford who can help you should you wish
to do so.
2004/05/28 This car is as delivered, it
has not been modified or changed in any way.
With Mr. Robert (Bob) Howe’s permission, I am
adding the following information about him and
copies of his e-mails to me:
For those do not know of Bob Howe, the
following will help: Bob is/was a Planning
Manager at Ford, He first joined the RS200 program
in April of 1984, when approval was given (by
senior management) to construct the first
prototype RS200. Bob’s RS200 duties covered many
areas including Engineering, Marketing, Sales and
Finance. Over the course of the RS200 program, Bob
drove four different RS200 ‘company cars’. He did
all the customer demo rides. Bob also attended the
‘one make’ club days (Ford days, RS days, and
RS200 days) as well as Group ‘B’ days. He has
logged some 20,000 miles on the track in RS200's
and some 180,000 miles of daily driving road use
in RS200's. Bob remained with the RS200 program
until the last car was handed over in February of
1990. Bob’s offices were located at Fords private
track and Motor sports facility.
This week I contacted Mr. Howe to ask if he
would be so kind as to look over this E-Bay
listing, and help make sure the details are
correct. The following is my letter to Bob and his
reply;
Dear Bob,
Would you be so kind as to mercilessly critique
my car on e-bay. Please be frank and tell me like
it is. I do not want to be caught out saying
anything wrong. Your help and suggestions would be
most helpful. I can change the add and photos.
Have I left anything out???
Many thanks again,
Murray
Hi Murray,
Pics look terrific but I can't find my way to
any spec. details. If you can Email what you have
written I will come back to you first thing
tomorrow (U.K. time). Right now I'm off to bed
after a very busy day!
Good luck.
Bob H
Hi Murray,
One of my selling points was that for road use
any good service mechanic, armed with the W/S
manual, could do all the usual routine service
jobs plus most of the rare breakage/ replacement
work. We suggested to Ford dealers that they
should allow 4 hours for routine service at 6000
mile intervals. At '80's prices the normal cost
for a routine service was about $600 (U.S.). By
usage over 10,000 miles I established that the
engine would handle lead free 94 Octane fuel
without valve damage. These were road miles,
demo's and occasional track days with specialist
owner clubs. I drove it hard but virtually never
sustained max RPM for more than a few seconds. The
most comfortable sports car I ever drove and I did
some 200,000 miles at the wheel of "my" cars and
just about all the cars built before handing over
to buyers.
Good luck and regards,
Bob H.
Talk to Bob, he thinks this car is one hell of
a bargain at this price.
Consider that, if one percent of the people who
view this RS200 are buyers, this demand alone is
equal to every remaining RS200 in the world. There
just are not enough RS200's to go around.
This is your ONLY chance to own a BRAND NEW
1986 Ford RS200 Homologated Group ‘B’ car. This
car has never had a registered owner. YOU can be
the one.
In response to E-Mails I have recently
received, it needs to be clarified and said that
this car has never been in an accident. That it
does have the original chassis, original engine,
and original gearbox as well as original
differentials. All other bits and pieces are
original, except the shift knobs and battery. The
seller represents that ALL SERIAL NUMBERS MATCH
Ford’s serial number list for this car when it was
built.